Blah Blah Blahhh.. about packaging vinyls etc.. once again

Got home from my short vacation and there was this packages waiting for me.

zoydArt Zoyd and latest repress of their awesome “Génération Sans Futur” on black vinyl. Nice experimental & avantgarde modern classical album and so on.. but I have something to say about packaging.. once again.

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Album came shrink-wrapped even though I asked to ship it record and cover separated, well it arrived without seam-splits and I was happy about that. Then I took a closer look and..

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one corner smashed..

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and another corner nicely smashed.. I do not know what to say anymore. It’s like fighting against windmills with these issues of lousy packaging. I do not even bother to complain about these damages anymore.. It won’t help. And I’m tired of reading mails of me being whining shithead because I just wanted to point out how important it is to use proper mailers or just secure those corners of the mailers or ship vinyls and covers separated etc.. fuck-hell-yeah, I’m that greedy/slimy one who is trying to take advance of your tiny business with pictures of free records in my mind.. blah blah blaah..

It’s sellers responsibility to provide best possible packaging for items they are selling and not to accuse customer being greedy/or something if they are not happy with ordered items arriving damaged. And it’s pointless to blame postal delivery for damages, because You all know that these REGULAR mailers are not secure enough!

Should I send my vinyl with these so-called “crucifix” mailers (extra stiffeners included)?

or with these ones?

or would it be better to use these mailers with “bumper” zones?

honestly.. and as a customer I’m ready to pay some extra for mailers like these.

36: Shadow Play 2xLP

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Here it is. Shadow Play by 36. Awesome! I have been following this artist now about 3-4 years and this artist is one of those whose records are ‘must have’ for me. This album is filled with drone & ambient, darkened kind. I don’t know but somehow there’s this sad atmosphere wrapped around it.. sad but waiting. ‘Shadow Play’ is limited to 100 copies for those who ordered (and funded) it, so this record on vinyl format might be little hard to find anywhere. Recommended album and very recommended artist. Keep your eyes on him because he’s about to release new 12″ on January, 2015.

Here’s a little story about this artist, dedication and awesome attitude about his fans. Few weeks ago I got this package shipped from England and even without opening the mailer I knew that there’s no way that the record (or more like the cover) had arrived without damages. Mailer had damages on three corners out of four and when I opened the package it was obvious that these mailer damages reflected straight to the cover of the album, you can read my outpouring/whining about that issue from here.. Well, I did not mention the artist nor the album in my post but some readers of this blog knew what was the record I wrote about.

I didn’t contacted the artist just because I thought that there’s no way he got spare covers etc. and the damages on the cover weren’t that bad. The point of my post was clearly the usage of those mailers I think are one of the worst available (even though those are most used..).

Then I got this email from the artist himself. Now I have this replacement copy, it came in mailer with crash/bumper zones. It’s in perfect condition. There was some extra item included (gonna write about it in my next post). I hope that this post encourage him to offer these new mailers as an option for customers to choose. And I really want to Thank him about this, I did not ask a new copy but he sent one. Exceptional kindness & understanding!

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Latest purchase from Discogs but even super-secured packaging did not prevent this to happen.. Damn You, postal services!

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Hmm.. and damn to postal services etc. Ordered this from Discogs and the album was packaged super secured (mailer with bumper/crash zones, album wrapped in bubble wrap etc.) but it did not prevent some a-hole somewhere along the way to use this package as a frisbee.. One corner of the mailer was smashed in and  have to say that I haven’t seen this bad damage ever with these kind of mailers. In this case I’m waving my fingers at postal services. And hey, this time I’m not blaming seller for insufficient packaging.

So if someone out there is willing to sell a copy of Switchblade’s S/T [2009] 2xLP on black vinyl (released by Denovali) with pristine cover, just contact me.

Sincerely, Mug(whining)wumb

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here we go again.. got quite expensive, quite limited album packaged like this (and packing & shipping cost me €15.50). Nice.

A picture paints a thousand words.

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If some one would like to know what is inside this “professional” mailer, just contact me and I’m happy to reveal that. It’s a pity because I really waited this to arrive. After seeing some pictures of already packaged albums on company’s facebook page last week.. I became very worried. Well..

Pizza delivery straight from Australia…

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Haa.. I got this pizza delivery today.. Actually I’m not smiling at all, more like speechless at this moment. Well.. pictures tell more than thousand words.

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Here we can see that this awesome pizza package has nicely bent…

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Oh, even without opening the box I can see what’s inside.. a record.

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And the record itself, placed on the flat surface. How nicely it is twisted.. but that’s not all..

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If I remember right, I asked if the album could be sent without shrink-wrap, vinyl taken out of the cover (in inner sleeve of course..). All this just to avoid possible seam splits.. like seen on the picture. Yes, it is still in shrink and unopened..

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Sorry Aussies, this seems to be very last time I will order vinyl records from Your beautiful country (this is not the first time I have received record, hmmm packaged like this one..). And no, I’m not going to contact seller/band, too long process for me. I just stay here and lick my wounds.

Week 28 – Punch of beautiful records on Denovali + something else..

I have been busy with our little puppy last one and a half week so I haven’t been following “stream of records” that intensively during this period.. but here’s some records I have my eyes on..

FRANZ KIRMANN – Meridians 2xLP (ltd. 150 on clear gold vinyl )
Denovali (€19.50 + shipping)
Cinematic, electronic music from one half of Piano Interrupted.

MATTHEW COLLINGS – Silence Is A Rhythm Too LP (ltd 150, on silver vinyl)
Denovali (€16.00 + shipping)
Interesting tunes, abstract modern classical.. or something but sounds amazing!

MATTHEW COLLINGS – Splintered Instruments LP (ltd. 150 on clear gold vinyll)
Denovali (€16.00 + shipping)
And another one from Matthew!

ENSEMBLE ECONIMIQUE – Melt Into Nothing LP (ltd. 150 on clear gold vinyl)
Denovali (€16.00 + shipping)
Been listening this artist and his previous records quite much lately so this is a must buy for me!

ALESSANDRO CORTINI – Sonno 2xLP (Initial copies on clear vinyl..)
Boomkat (£16.99 + shipping)
Easy pick for me, I already have his few records released by Important Records. I like his music a lot (even without these Nine Inch Nails connctions..)

ZU – Goodnight Civilization 12″ (single sided)
Denovali (€13.50 + shipping)
Denovali has this on their distro so why not to grab this insane avantgarde jazz mayhem?

FREE NELSON MANDOOMJAZZ – The Shape Of Doomjazz To Come/Saxophone Giganticus  2×12″
Denovali (€20.00 + shipping)
Well, doomed avant-garde jazz? Available from Denovali’s distro

CURSE THE SON – Psychache LP (ltd. 75, Die Hard edition)
STB Records ($TBA + shipping)
This will be released.. well I do not know but I’m waiting.. stoned heavy!

SPIRAL SHADES – Hypnosis Sessions LP
RidingEasy Records ($22.00 + shipping)
Well, this is pre-order item on grey vinyl. I’m going to wait for those TP & Die Hard editions myself.. when those come, I’m going to be there!!

MATTHEW HALSALL & THE CONDWANA ORCHESTRA – When The World Was One 2xLP
BandCamp (£19.99 + immediate download)
British Jazz.. uuhhhhh

This was really fast update but maybe there’s also something interesting for You too. Now I’m going to spent some time outdoors with our “record destroying mayhem” (picture can be seen below)

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..Isn’t it amazing?

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Nice start for this week. Got this package from the States today. From following pictures you can see how it was packaged.. not good at all.

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Record was packed in envelope like this. By holding this on my hands I already knew that this one is not going to be in condition I though it was when I purchased this one.

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Yep, there was bubble-wrap, but no carton stiffeners etc. Not that bad-looking one but when looking little closer we can see the problem..

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Hmm.. there you are, nice collection of creases and some bends all over the cover but that’s not all. Best part is that the vinyl itself is twisted and there’s no way I’m going to place this record on my turntable, ever. Look at yourself.

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Record placed on the table and surely every one can see what I mean when I say that there’s something wrong about this vinyl. Oh, and I ordered clear vinyl and got black one.. maybe they should check what they are selling on BandCamp..

Isn’t it amazing..

 

Bast: Spectres LP with bumped corners..

This post is not about the band or their music, this is a post about damaged covers in general. This one is just for an example.

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I got this one few days ago (you can read about that from my previous post).  Anyways, the point is that when I pay for the record & shipping I assume to get mint condition record (in whole) in secured package. And as you can see, it came with two damaged corners. Did I pay for those bumps on the corners? I thought that I was purchasing new and pristine copy of this album.

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Oh, now we draw this “blame it on the post services” card. Lame, post service got nothing to do with these issues if the record has poor package around it. Yes, I know that more secured mailers/more time taking packaging (more stiffeners, bubble-wrap, secured corners etc.) is expensive and if that is the issue, then I gladly pay little more for secured shipping.

Some may say that I’m whining about little things. For some these are meaningless issues but for me as a music consumer & collector it feels bad to receive damaged items. How about if you buy a new television, would you like to place it on your living room with two smashed corners, would you be sitting on your couch smiling? For me these records are little treasures, my precious things.

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And what can I do about this? I emailed to the seller, included some pictures, reminded them that I asked to sent the record taken out of the cover (what was done) and asked them kindly to secure the corners of the cover.. (wasn’t done). And did I get answered, no, silence & nothing. I should have bought this from that familiar and customer friendly store, but I took a risk and bought this from different store (with little cheaper prize) and it turned out this way.

The band is great, their music is great but the joy and excitement of purchasing and owning new record is gone.

p.s. I will start (again) a new picture section on my blog about damaged corners (bumps, creases, bends etc.) and especially about seam splitted covers (with tiny, nearly visible damages I can live with). Of course I wont post pictures if it’s obvious that damage is caused by something else than insufficient packaging.

I wont be revealing company/store names but if some one is interested, just contact me. And for clearance, I certainly try to contact the seller but if I do not hear anything from them within 2-3 days, pictures will be revealed.

This is my way to tell what I think. It certainly isn’t my fault if records arrive damaged. And if some one want to put me on their black list because of this, they have a right to do so. I have rights as a customer/consumer too.

Third week in row… Aaarrghhh %@$!!

Well, seems that bad winds are blowing to this direction.. and it is third week in row..

First I got this package from UK, and you can see with your naked eyes that there ain’t gonna be pristine stuff inside.

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And surprisingly, I was right..

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Two corners of the cover nicely smashed.. I just wanna say that it’s useless to blame post on these, this would have been prevented easily by using better mailer or at least by using some extra carton on corners as I have advised on my post months ago “About packing vinyl records… part xxxxxx

Then I got this awesome looking package from US, but turned out that they had mistakenly sent me something I had never ordered (actually my copy came on Monday, the one I ordered). Some one somewhere is now wondering where her/his order is lurking, well it’s here with me and I’m gonna return this package tomorrow back to the source.

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Yes, mistakes happen and I do not wanna take advantage of these things. I wrote the label about this immediately and we have agreed that I’m going to return these asap.

Two packages, one had damaged item and the other had records that does not belong to me. The stars are against me..

Glad thing is that I found this long lost treasure from Discogs yesterday :D

It took three months via “Sea mail”…

This week started with a package that breaks my heart. It took over 3 months to arrive but the worst thing is that it was packaged like this (I just let the pictures speak..)

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There’s no doubt that three months via Sea mail ain’t the best thing for the vinyl album that is packaged in Expandable Though Bag without any stiffeners etc.. :)

“Expandable Though Bags are a strong yet light-weight bag. The side gussets allow the bag to expand to carry bulky non-fragile items as clothing.. “

 

Shrink-wrapped -> Obviously in MINT condition.. yep

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Shrink-wrap, the “Magical” wrapping material that allows you to grade your albums as MINT, without exception.

I do not think so. I give you few examples why.

This album I bought few years ago from Discogs. Both cover and the record were graded as Mint just because the album was still sealed in shrink-wrap. Well, does this cover look like Mint?

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I don’t think so. Record itself was in excellent condition but the cover..

Then I have another example how this magical component, shrink-wrap,
makes even folds to disappear. this album was not sealed, shrink-wrap was opened
from one side (but hey, wrap was still on), and the cover was graded as Mint.

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hmm.. this does not seem mint to me either.

Conclusion is that when the record has shrink-wrap on (even opened one), you can grade it as MINT! Bollocks!

Here we go again… (updated 02/14/14)

02/14/14 UPDATE: Issue with this shipment is now solved with the record company and I’m waiting for the replacement one (and for your information, band had nothing to do with this task).

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When you got a package like this, thin and mangled, you quite well know what to expect.. (surprisingly from UK). Let’s take a closer look on the package..

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Here we can see that the package has few bends on the corners. And when keeping this on my hands I can say that there obviously ain’t any stiffeners etc. to secure the record..

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yep, none. No carton stiffeners nor bubble wrap, just a record in the.. box.

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nice bend. Let’s take a closer look..

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This did not come the way I politely asked, shrink-wrap removed, record shipped outside the cover etc. Lack of using carton stiffeners caused these bends on the corners and I’m quite sure that the vinyl itself is twisted. Only positive thing is that this came without seam splits even though it is sealed. One carton stiffener (even one!) could have prevent these bends to form.. Yes, I do not even bother to open this one. Poor and lousy packaging, no respect towards end-user,  I may say.

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